tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14639740.post8518320119029611585..comments2024-01-08T03:37:14.878-05:00Comments on sententiae et clamores: And the winner is...Liamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17265036866243982434noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14639740.post-82513142586937522062007-03-21T07:43:00.000-04:002007-03-21T07:43:00.000-04:00Nope, this Eusebius is not a saint in the Orthodox...Nope, this Eusebius is not a saint in the Orthodox church. He is also not a saint in either the Antiochene or Alexandrian churches.<BR/><BR/>What most people don't know is that Eusebius is incredibly useful for establishing chronology for those of using consuls and archons to date our historical scholarship. <BR/><BR/>This is why he got my vote!Governalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12752259196050229798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14639740.post-4144055833488826622007-03-19T21:11:00.000-04:002007-03-19T21:11:00.000-04:00I saw the various Eusebii as well -- I think our f...I saw the various Eusebii as well -- I think our friend is not one of them.<BR/><BR/>There are tons of Orthodox Churches, and the Syrians have one of the oldest. I went to their Church in Jerusalem, St Mark's, and heard their beautiful service in Aramaic.<BR/><BR/>There is also the "Hispanic Orthodox Church of the Mozarabic Rite" run by "Bendictine friars" (!) on Avenue C. Strange.<BR/><BR/>There is a Celtic Orthodox Church, and of course, the Orthodox Church of St John Coltrane.Liamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17265036866243982434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14639740.post-24561415307102993642007-03-19T16:30:00.000-04:002007-03-19T16:30:00.000-04:00When I suggested he campaign for our venerable his...<I>When I suggested he campaign for our venerable historian, he replied, "no, I will just let the Holy Spirit work."</I><BR/><BR/>"Politics is a Tool of the Devil." BOB DYLAN<BR/><BR/>BTW, I've gone through several books and online sources, and I can find no evidence that Eusebius of Caesarea is a Saint in any Orthodox Church. There are several saints named Eusebius - it must have been a popular name at one point (kind of like Thelonious is now) - but as far as I can tell, none of them are Eusebius of Caesarea. I may continue looking around.<BR/><BR/>There are a lot of "Orthodox" Churches, you know that? The Syriac Orthodox Church. What's up with that? I wonder if I could start the Texian Orthodox Church. Or the Brooklyn Orthodox Church - that sounds pretty good, no? "Yo, I'm Vinny Two-Pints, Patriarch of the Brooklyn Orthodox Church. How ya doin'?"cowboyangelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13452987299073540171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14639740.post-41261057766746075812007-03-16T09:50:00.000-04:002007-03-16T09:50:00.000-04:00Well, I wondered about all those votes for Eusebiu...Well, I wondered about all those votes for Eusebius. I should have been suspicious when I saw the voter rolls filled with names like "Mickey Mouse" and "Torquemada."<BR/><BR/>Funny, a friend who is a medievalist and a member of the Society of Jesus was supporting Bede strongly. When I suggested he campaign for our venerable historian, he replied, "no, I will just let the Holy Spirit work."<BR/><BR/>There you go.<BR/><BR/>The election, however, will stand, and anyone who feels unsure about dear old Eusebius can still pray to Bede as they research their footnotes.Liamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17265036866243982434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14639740.post-70098913862388730212007-03-15T23:34:00.000-04:002007-03-15T23:34:00.000-04:00A twofer! :-)A twofer! :-)crystalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05681674503952991492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14639740.post-15918134291684861362007-03-15T20:52:00.000-04:002007-03-15T20:52:00.000-04:00In the interest of transparency and democracy, I f...In the interest of transparency and democracy, I feel I should clarify a few things about Eusebius' last-minute surge in the Patron Saint of Historians Poll. A certain Boston-based blogger has tried to tie me to various voting "irregularities." But is it really "irregular" to <B>yearn for democracy?</B><BR/><BR/>When our beloved leader announced that there would be no run-off between the top two vote-getters, despite the Venerable Bede not receiving a majority, my heart, admittedly, grew heavy. As Martin Luther king Jr. so beautifully said, "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."<BR/><BR/>Rahter than a vulgar term like voting "irregularities," I'd like to offer "creative voting strategies," whose sole aim - keep in mind - was the fostering of democracy and the blossoming of justice. Without going into detail on my outside-of-the-box campaigning, let me simply ask if it is wrong to encourage people, who, granted, may not know a lot about the candidates but who are still G-d's children, to vote for a worthy candidate in such an important election? After all, we're not talking about choosing a Patron Saint of Historians for some four-year term. No, we're talking about <B>at least</B> two terms and possibly getting his wife to run a few years later for two more. Wait, no, that's another matter. Suffice it to say, we're talking about a long, long time. There's no impeachment process for Patron Saints, as far as I know. Is it wrong to want to spurs us as a society to think long and hard and deep on the matter? To ponder and consider with all of our intellectual and spiritual faculties the merits of TWO candidates, instead of a rushed internet-age, slam-bam-thank-you-mam, yeah-sure-Bede's-great kind of election?<BR/><BR/>So, while I refute the mean-spirited and low-minded term "voting irregularities," I do realize that perhaps my efforts to spread democracy may have been a little too far outside of the box. The box was still within view. No serious limitations or moral lines were crossed, but I know even the appearance of evil should be avoided.<BR/><BR/>In that spirit, I suggest that Bede the Venerable be chosen as the official nominee for Patron Saint of Historians. Thinking it over, I see now that his election makes sense, as he's already a saint, and he wouldn't be facing a two-step process, that of Canonization - already a tricky prospect in Eusebius' case - AND examination as a Patron Saint.<BR/><BR/>Eusebius, despite all of his qualities, was ultimately second.<BR/><BR/>Sorry for any confusion.cowboyangelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13452987299073540171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14639740.post-83049307519761733482007-03-15T18:06:00.000-04:002007-03-15T18:06:00.000-04:00Not that I'm from Texas.I'm from Florida.Really.Not that I'm from Texas.<BR/><BR/>I'm from Florida.<BR/><BR/>Really.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14639740.post-83025799371135369112007-03-15T18:02:00.000-04:002007-03-15T18:02:00.000-04:00Eusebius came from behind and even pulled ahead.I ...<I>Eusebius came from behind and even pulled ahead.</I><BR/><BR/>I may or may not be implicated in that "come from behind" victory.<BR/><BR/>Or what was <I>supposed</I> to be a come-from-behind victory. What do you mean Bede hit a jumper as the buzzer sounded!!! Not fair!<BR/><BR/>LBJ would never have let this happen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com