tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14639740.post7186928768694362962..comments2024-01-08T03:37:14.878-05:00Comments on sententiae et clamores: de ponteficis et imperatoribusLiamhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17265036866243982434noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14639740.post-29381681037314212822006-10-22T18:33:00.000-04:002006-10-22T18:33:00.000-04:00Further to my recent ‘20 facts of Islam’ comments....Further to my recent ‘20 facts of Islam’ comments. Here are the points justified with supporting links:<br /><br />Twenty facts that every infidel should know about Islam:<br /><br />Islam ...<br /><br />1) Is a mind-control and information-control cult founded by a murderer, torturer, brigand, rapist and pedophile called Mohammed. The mind-control and information-control aspects require that all criticism be silenced.<br /><br />- Mind and information control: <br />http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina/cultorreligion.htm ,<br />http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2004/07/11/do1102.xml&sSheet=/news/2004/07/11/ixhome.html , <br />http://www.hvk.org/articles/1102/154.html , <br />http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-questions.htm , <br /><br />- Mohammed's criminality: <br />http://www.faithfreedom.org/challenge.htm , http://www.angelfire.com/de/knowledgeoftruth/muhammed.html , http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate/playboy.html , http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate/libido.html , <br /><br />- Mohammed’s pedophilia: <br />http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=27975, <br />http://answering-islam.org/Responses/Saifullah/aishahage.htm , <br /><br />- Silencing criticism:<br />http://www.domini.org/openbook/australia200309012.htm , <br />http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2092-2058502,00.html , <br />http://www.danielpipes.org/article/321 , <br /><br /><br /><br /><br />2) Is Mohammed's personality cult. Has no foundations other than Mo's murderous rantings (Koran and Hadith). The Koran consists of two conflicting parts - Meccan and Medinan (peaceful and violent respectively). The Medinan stuff supersedes ('abrogates') the Meccan stuff. Muslims act Medinan, but quote Meccan verses to the gullible infidels.<br /><br />- Mohammed as a cult leader: <br />http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina50218.htm , <br />http://www.faithfreedom.org/faq/67.htm , <br />http://www.humanists.net/alisina/cult_or_religion.htm , <br /><br />- Meccan and Medinan verses: <br />http://jimball.com.au/features/Myth-of-moderate-Islam.htm , http://www.islamreview.com/articles/madinasuras.shtml , <br />http://www.aijac.org.au/review/2006/31-10/essay31-10.htm , <br /><br /><br /><br /><br />3) Claims to worship the same God as Christians and Jews, but in fact worships Allah - a demonic channelling through Mohammed's psychopathic ego. The Death Cult mixes garbled travesties of Christian and Jewish scriptures with pagan practices such as moon and meteorite-worship, and cut-throat blood sacrifice of animals and non-believers.<br /><br />- Allah and God: <br />http://www.family.org/cforum/fosi/islam/faqs/a0029179.cfm , http://www.islamreview.com/articles/nothingincommon.shtml , <br />http://answering-islam.org.uk/Silas/founders.htm , http://www.blessedcause.org/Quran.htm , <br /><br />- Origins of the koran : <br />http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/001202.php, http://www.ninetyandnine.com/Archives/20020211/review.htm , http://www.prophetofdoom.net/chapter.aspx?g=401&i=41003 , http://www.islamreview.com/articles/inventionofislam.shtml , <br /><br />- Allah's pagan daughters: <br />http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-allahs-daughters.htm , http://notendur.centrum.is/~snorrigb/fem4.htm , <br /><br /><br />- Meteorite worship: <br />http://www.meteorite.fr/en/basics/history.htm, <br />http://answering-islam.org.uk/Gilchrist/Vol1/7d.html , <br />http://www.bible.ca/islam/islam-meteorite-worship.htm , <br />http://www.ccs-hk.org/DM/Islam.html, http://www.haberer-meteorite.de/english/Culture%20and%20religion.htm , <br /><br />- Animal sacrifice to Allah:<br /> http://www.renaissance.com.pk/JanIslamiShari12y5.htm , <br />http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/skm60117.htm , <br /><br />- Human sacrifice to Allah: <br />http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=13371, http://diodon349.com/Attacking_USA/see_islamic_terrorists_for_the_satanic_etc_they_are.htm , http://www.slate.com/id/2103261/ , <br />http://www.cdn-friends-icej.ca/antiholo/pearl.html , http://washingtontimes.com/national/20040624-121737-2912r.htm , http://www.asianews.it/view.php?l=en&art=1501 , <br />http://www.bangladesh-web.com/view.php?hidDate=2004-07-14&hidType=OPT&hidRecord=0000000000000000014248 , <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />4) Has no rational, philosophical nor theological basis, and the whole belief-system is contradicted by science, philosophy, commonsense, human decency and internal inconsistency.<br /><br />- Flat earth: <br />http://trisagionseraph.tripod.com/flatearth.html , <br />http://www.fixedearth.com/koran.html <br /><br />- Contradictions in the koran: <br />http://answering-islam.org/Quran/Contra/ , http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/richard_carrier/islam.html , http://www.geocities.com/lone_wolf_gc/earth_shape.html , http://www.carm.org/islam/Koran_contradictions.htm , <br />http://www.lwbc.co.uk/koran.htm , <br /><br /><br /><br /><br />5) Cannot withstand rational criticism. Can only spread and maintain itself by ignorance, illiteracy, war, terrorism, and intimidation. Islam has bloody borders and cannot co-exist peacefully with other belief systems. Winston Churchill said that Islam in a man is as dangerous as hydrophobia (rabies) in a dog.<br /><br />- Irrationalism: <br />http://www.mercatornet.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=371 , <br />http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=bc48fb82-d9f0-43d5-b28d-68a1a7e1c804 , <br />http://www.americanthinker.com/articles.php?article_id=5901 , <br /><br />- Islamic intellectual achievements: <br />http://www.masada2000.org/nobel.html , <br />http://www.meforum.org/article/306 , <br /><br />- Intimidation against criticism and apostasy: <br />http://www.danielpipes.org/article/2218 , <br />http://www.islamreview.com/articles/islamapostasy.shtml , <br /><br />- Bloody borders: <br />http://chromatism.net/bloodyborders/ , <br /><br />- Intrinsically violent: <br />http://www.israelnewsagency.com/al-quaedaterrorismus10012.html , http://www.bibletranslation.ws/islam.html , <br />http://radicalacademy.com/gegeorgeirbe12b.htm , <br />http://www.crosswalk.com/news/1172035.html , http://www.islamreview.com/articles/jihadholywarversesinthekoran.shtml , http://www.islamreview.com/articles/poorislamists.shtml , http://www.angelfire.com/moon/yoelnatan/koranwarpassages.htm , http://www.citizensoldier.org/winthewar.html , <br /><br />- Churchill: <br />http://www.chuckbaldwinlive.com/read_churchill_islam.html , <br /><br /><br /><br /><br />6) Has a superstitious dread of images of pigs, crosses, Buddhas, Saint George (and his flag) and of course Motoons.<br /><br />- Buddhas, crosses and teddy bears: http://www.guardian.co.uk/saudi/story/0,11599,1109291,00.html , http://activistchat.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=663,<br /><br />- Pigs: <br />http://www.derbygripe.co.uk/arbor.htm, <br />http://www.theage.com.au/news/World/Piggy-banks-offend-UK-Muslims/2005/10/24/1130006056771.html , http://www.guardian.co.uk/religion/Story/0,2763,939398,00.html , http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=32749 , http://www.masada2000.org/bacon.html , http://archives.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/meast/08/20/suicide.bombers/ , http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=24691 , <br /><br />- Toonophobia: <br />http://www.coxandforkum.com/archives/000783.html http://thestudyofrevenge.blogspot.com/2006/01/portrait-of-prophet-muhammad.html , <br /><br />- Saint George: <br />http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/europe/10/04/britain.redcross/index.html , http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/011163.php , <br /><br /><br /><br /><br />7) Regards Islamic women as semihuman. Wife-beating, incest and child abuse (including mufa’khathat or 'thighing' - the ritual abuse of infants) are encouraged.<br /><br />- Treatment of women: <br />http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate/women.html , http://www.islamreview.com/articles/sexinislam.htm , <br />http://www.nospank.net/demause5.htm , <br /><br />- Infant abuse and ‘thighing’: <br />http://islamstrueface.blogspot.com/2005/07/more-on-pedopheliaand-thighing.html , http://kenlydell.typepad.com/islamic_evil/muslim_sexual_perversion/index.html , http://www.homa.org/Details.asp?View=Detail&ContentID=2137352826&TOCID=2083225445 , <br />http://www.hinduunity.org/articles/islamexposed/excerptsayatollah.html , <br /><br /><br /><br /><br />8) Regards all unbelievers (Kaffirs, Kuffar, Kufrs, Kafirs) as ritually unclean subhumans to be killed, subjugated, enslaved, exploited or parasitised. Kafirs are described by the Arabic word 'najis' - literally 'filth'. That's why Muslim hatred of Kafirs is intrinsic to their 'religion'. A Kafir doesn't need to DO anything to offend a Muslim, his very existence is enough of an affront.<br /><br />- Najis kafirs: <br />http://www.al-islam.org/laws/najisthings.html , <br />http://cartoonazi.blogspot.com/2006/09/disgusting-filthy-najis-things.html , http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/006589.php ,<br /><br />- Treatment of kafirs: <br />http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate/kafir.html , <br /><br />- Enslavement of kaffirs: <br />http://answering-islam.org/Silas/slavery.htm , <br />http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/7016 , http://www.islamreview.com/articles/neitherblacknorafrican.shtml , <br /><br /><br /><br /><br />9) The ethical system applies only to Muslims. Allah encourages rape, pillage, extortion and enslavement of non-Muslims. Morality does not extend beyond the global gang (ummah). Muslim ethics are the ethics of the Mafia.<br /><br />- Loyalty to the Ummafia<br />http://sixthcolumn.blogspot.com/2005/07/how-could-they-our-british-friends-ask.html , http://www.westernresistance.com/blog/archives/003123.html , <br /><br />- Massacre, rape, pillage and enslavement: http://www.hinduunity.org/articles/islamexposed/prophetterror3.html , http://www.bereanpublishers.com/Cults/Muslims/truth_about_islam_by_dave_hunt.htm , <br /><br /><br /><br /><br />10) Allah's followers are motivated by hatred, greed and lust. There is no love, mercy or compassion. Allah is vindictive, unpredictable, capricious and devious - "Allah leads astray whom he pleases".<br /><br />- Hate cult: <br />http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=27938 , <br />http://www.iranian.ws/cgi-bin/iran_news/exec/view.cgi/2/3626 , http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/003119.php , <br /><br />- Women as plunder: <br />http://www.warriorsfortruth.com/news-jerry-falwell-mohammed.html , <br /><br />- Barbarism: <br />http://www.howardbloom.net/islam.htm , <br />http://www.coranix.com/beastycult.htm , <br /><br />- Allah - Father of Lies: <br />http://www.bethmessiah.com/david.htm , <br />http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/allah_deceiver.htm , <br /><br /><br />11) The only religion NOT founded on The Golden Rule. Morality is based on Mohammed's example. If Mohammed did it then it's OK for all Muslims. Hence the encouragement of rape, pillage, subjugation and murder of non-believers and the institutionalised pedophilia prevalent throughout Muslim society (justified by Mohammed's activities with Ayesha, his child sex-slave - see and listen to http://islamcomicbook.com/lyrics1.htm).<br /><br />- Golden Rule: <br />http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/005959.php , <br />http://www.faithfreedom.org/debates/YaminZakariap8.htm , <br /><br />- Mohammed as the example of ‘the perfect man’: http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/News/Trifkovic04/NewsST091304.html , http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/003416.php , <br /><br />- Institutionalised pedophilia: <br />http://www.cathud.com/LINKS/pages_GL/Islam.htm , <br />http://www.nospank.net/glazov.htm , <br />http://www.blessedquietness.com/alhaj/page20.htm , http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/002006.php , <br /><br />- Jihadic rape: <br />http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1227317/posts , <br />http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.asp?ID=20646 , <br />http://fjordman.blogspot.com/2005/12/immigrant-rape-wave-in-sweden.html , <br /><br /><br /><br /><br />12) All human relations are defined by Dominance/Subjugation. Muslims have schizoid inferiority/superiority complexes. (A well-balanced Muslim is one with a chip on each shoulder). They respect strength but despise compromise as weakness. Appeasement invites more aggression. The only political system which has been strong enough to subjugate Islam is Stalinism.<br /><br />- Honor/shame, dominance and subjugation:<br />http://shrinkwrapped.blogs.com/blog/2006/01/warning_shots.html , http://drsanity.blogspot.com/2005/08/shame-arab-psyche-and-islam.html , http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/PSEUDOSC/TOXICVAL.HTM , <br /><br />- Inferiority complex: <br />http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,1072-2359800,00.html , <br /><br />- Appeasement: <br />http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=13284 , <br /><br /><br /><br /><br />13) Polygamy ensures alpha-males get extra women, leading to a shortage of women for the betas. Beta-males must either jerk off (a sin leading to hell), or form dog-packs and rape or capture kafir women as booty in a razzia, or else self-destruct in the presence of infidels then they can screw 72 mythical virgins in Allah's bordello in the sky (see and listen to http://islamcomicbook.com/lyrics3.htm). Beta-males are often encouraged by their relatives to become suicide bombers because of the belief that such murderous 'martyrs' will be able to intercede with Allah to take 70 of their relatives to paradise with them.<br /><br />- Polygamy and Jihad: <br />http://www.taemag.com/issues/articleID.18649/article_detail.asp , <br /><br />- Muslim rape:<br />http://kenlydell.typepad.com/islamic_evil/muslim_rape/index.html , <br /><br />- Paradise: <br />http://muhammadanism.org/Terrorism/Terrorist_Mind.htm , http://www.factsofisrael.com/blog/archives/000079.html , <br /><br />- Bomber’s relatives go to paradise: <br />http://www.ict.org.il/articles/articledet.cfm?articleid=128 , http://www.memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=countries&Area=palestinian&ID=IA6101 , <br /><br /><br /><br />14) Lying and deception of infidels (taqiyya) is encouraged. This may take many forms, including outright lies, feigned moderation, and condemnation of terrorist attacks to the Kaffir while rejoicing with fellow Muslims. All Muslims need to regard themselves as victims of some group of Kafirs so they can harbor grudges against them and against Kafirs in general. Individuals may appear law-abiding and reasonable, but they are part of a totalitarian movement, and must be considered potential killers who can flip in an instant (SJS -'Sudden Jihad Syndrome').<br /><br />- Taqiyya: <br />http://www.freeman.org/m_online/dec97/phares.htm , <br />http://www.islamreview.com/articles/nikah.shtml , <br />http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/3518 , http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=178 , http://hauns.com/~DCQu4E5g/koran5.html , <br />http://www.ci-ce-ct.com/Feature%20articles/02-12-2002.asp , <br /> <br />- Muslim victimology <br />http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina/Islamic_victimization.htm , http://www.iranian.com/Opinion/2002/March/Victim/index.html , http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2006/05/europes_politics_of_victimolog.html , <br /><br />- SJS<br />http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=21630 , http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=SJS , http://lostbudgie.blogspot.com/2006/03/sudden-jihad-syndrome.html , http://jihadwatch.org/archives/011114.php , <br /><br /><br />15) Muslims are forbidden to befriend Kaffirs except for purposes of deceit or where conversion may be possible. <br /><br />http://www.islamreview.com/articles/whoareinfidels.shtml , http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/25283 , <br /><br /><br /><br /><br />16) The Koran is Allah's final word and cannot be changed or challenged. To do so is punishable by death. Consequently, the Death Cult can never change or be reformed. The instructions to murder and rape infidels are just as valid now as the day they were written. Since Islam cannot be modernised, the Muslims are attempting to Islamise modernity. This requires spreading Islam in the West and simultaneously preventing any criticism of the cult by intimidation and PC legislation to curtail freedom of expression.<br /><br />- Koran as literal word of Allah: <br />http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4048586,00.html , <br /><br />- Koranic principles of jihad: <br />http://www.israelnewsagency.com/Al-Qaeda.html , <br /><br />- Intimidation and censorship: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2004/12/11/do1101.xml , http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=17523 , http://www.atheists.org/Islam/violenceinbritain.html , <br />http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=3674 , <br /><br /><br />17) Treaties and agreements with Kaffirs are made to be broken (Hudna). The word of a Muslim to a Kafir counts for nothing in the eyes of Allah. Allah is The Father Of Lies.<br /><br />- Hudna:<br />http://jihadwatch.org/archives/004085.php , http://www.middleeastinfo.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=8365 , <br /><br /><br /><br />18) The world is divided between Dar-al-Islam and Dar-al-Harb (the domain of war, the Kufr lands). Muslims living in Dar-al-Harb must work to disrupt their host nations until these can be brought into Dar-al-Islam. <br /><br />- Dar al Harb and the Umma: <br />http://www.islamreview.com/articles/hatredinislam.shtml , http://www.frontpagemagazine.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=2601 , <br />http://www.ucg.org/commentary/madridbombings.htm , <br /><br /><br /><br />19) Muslims have no obligation to their host nations and in fact are encouraged to parasitise them. Welfare fraud, identity theft, forgery etc are endemic in Western Muslim populations, and serious crime against Kaffirs is regarded as normal and justified. Extortion rackets against Kafirs are mandated by the Koran ('jizya' is the Arabic term for 'protection money' payable by Jews and Christians to Muslims).<br /><br />- Subversion and disloyalty: <br />http://answering-islam.org/Terrorism/agenda.html , http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/templateC07.php?CID=13 , http://igst.blogspot.com/2006/02/muslim-leaders-and-subversion-of.html , http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/7681 , http://www.annaqed.com/under/muslims_reaction_to_suicide_bombings.html , <br /><br />- Parasitism: <br />http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2004591199,00.html , <br />http://niconoclast.blogspot.com/2006/08/parasitic-islam.html , <br />http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1720770/postshttp://pedestrianinfidel.blogspot.com/2006/06/parasitic-fifth-column-works-jizya-and.html , <br />http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=18399 , <br /><br />- Jizya extortion <br />http://pweb.netcom.com/~us_copts/protection.html , <br />http://answering-islam.org.uk/Silas/juancole.htm , http://www.faithfreedom.org/debates/looting51122p3.htm , http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/008904.php , http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/23932 , http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=21082 , http://kenlydell.typepad.com/islamic_evil/muslim_intolerance/index.html , <br /><br />- The Muslims as a liability and welfare dependence: <br />http://www.islamreview.com/articles/westsunmanageable.shtml , http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/011958.php , http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2006/10/migrants_told_t.php , <br /><br /><br /><br />20) The attack on the host nation isn't just against its religion and economy, but is aimed at its very cultural identity. Islam is a complete system, including a culture, which Muslims regard as superior (despite all evidence to the contrary) to other cultures. Muslims are therefore required to destroy the symbols of 'Jahiliya' (sometimes sp. Jahiliyya) - non-Muslim culture. In the East this has included destruction of Hindu temples and Christian churches and replacement with mosques, and destruction of Buddhist artwork and universities and replacement with heaps of rubble. This process of cultural replacement is now beginning in the West.. <br /><br />- Destruction of Hindu and Buddhist Culture: <br />http://hindutva.org/babrimasjid.html , <br />http://www.doncroner.com/India/Nalanda/nalanda.html , <br />http://www.indiastar.com/wallia15.htm , http://65.18.218.137/genocide/ , http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/LJWalker30916.htm , http://www.hvk.org/specialarts/ichr/articles/0001.html , <br /><br />- Attacks on Christian Culture: http://www.moriel.org/articles/discernment/islam/moslems_firebomb_english_church_during_islam_awareness_week.htm , <br />http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=13340 , <br />http://www.benadorassociates.com/article/10235 , <br />http://www.westernresistance.com/blog/archives/003011.html , <br />http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,214195,00.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14639740.post-92027683405554015672006-09-26T18:40:00.000-04:002006-09-26T18:40:00.000-04:00Okay, ROP, I'm cutting you off. My patience has wo...Okay, ROP, I'm cutting you off. My patience has worn thin, your information is wrong, your sources are not credible and you're insulting one of the great religions of the world, a religion that is 1400 years old and has more than a billion faithful. You don't know what you're talking about, and the odds are I will delete any more hateful comments you leave on my blog.Liamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17265036866243982434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14639740.post-45605772367045789562006-09-26T18:13:00.000-04:002006-09-26T18:13:00.000-04:00Islam is not a religion. Religions attempt to brin...Islam is not a religion. Religions attempt to bring out the best in people, wheareas a Death Cult does this ... http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1130760/postsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14639740.post-17682009271489637202006-09-26T15:37:00.000-04:002006-09-26T15:37:00.000-04:00Hi Jeff.
There are, I am sad to say, a number of C...Hi Jeff.<br />There are, I am sad to say, a number of Christians both Catholic and not that seem to relish conflict between Christianity and Islam (these are people who use the first person plural when talking about medieval crusaders). The pope, as much as I wish he were warmer on the interfaith issue than he is, is not one of them.<br /><br />Eboo Patel, whom I spoke about in my post of Sept. 5, had a similar attitude to Mother Teresa. Thanks for the quote.Liamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17265036866243982434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14639740.post-28902577279092344432006-09-26T13:43:00.000-04:002006-09-26T13:43:00.000-04:00Liam,
I think it’s fair to say that your correspo...Liam,<br /><br />I think it’s fair to say that your correspondent holds a more contemptuous view of Islam than either Pope Benedict, or even Rev. Joseph Fessio does. There is a certain subset of traditionalists who are in the unenviable position of having to defend what they <I>wish</I> Benedict had meant rather than what he really meant. <br /><br />If Benedict has said himself that “This was a quote from a medieval text which does not express in any way my personal thoughts”, has indicated in other venues that he adheres firmly to the spirit and letter of <I>Nostra Aetate</I>, and that while he has concerns about terrorism, he admires many aspects of Islam, then the correspondent should have more of a problem with Benedict than he does with you.<br /><br />http://www.ratzingerfanclub.com/<br />blog/2006/09/<br />so-what-does-pope-benedict-xvi-think.html<br /><br />Furthermore, he’d have to be in league with certain groups of schsimatics or sedevacantists who condemn Mother Teresa as an indifferentist for having said: <br /><br /><I>I love all religions and am in love with my own…<br /><br />Christians, Muslims, Hindus, believers and nonbelievers<br />have the opportunity with us to do works of love<br />have the opportunity with us to share the joy of<br />loving and come to realize God's presence.<br />Hindus become better Hindus.<br />Catholics become better Catholics.<br />Muslims become better Muslims. </I>Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10754406706300818849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14639740.post-20098908846871907962006-09-25T18:33:00.000-04:002006-09-25T18:33:00.000-04:00Robert Spencer is not a scholar trained in Islamic...Robert Spencer is not a scholar trained in Islamic studies. He has an MA in religious studies, the thesis of which he wrote on early Christianity. He runs a thinktank called "Jihadwatch," which is part of David Horowitz's McCarthyite "Freedom Center." His books are published by right-wing organizations, not by academic presses:<br />http://www.unc.edu/courses/2004spring/reli/026/001/spencer.htm<br /><br />The only books on your list published by an academic press are by a Frenchwoman who writes under the pseudonym "Bat Ye'or," and of whose book "The Decline of Eastern Christianity under Islam," Sidney H Griffith, professor of the Catholic University, says in his review in the "International Journal of Middle East Studies," "The problems one has with the book are basically twofold: the theoretical inadequacy of the interpretive concepts jihad and dhimmitude, as they are employed here; and the want of historical method in the deployment of the documents which serve as evidence for the conclusions reached in the study... in spite of the fact that she has raised an issue that deserves study, Bat Ye'or has written a polemical tract, not responsible historical analysis." (Vol. 30 (1998), pp. 619-621).Liamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17265036866243982434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14639740.post-49254630716002478412006-09-24T15:19:00.000-04:002006-09-24T15:19:00.000-04:00...and here are some quotes from the Koran itself.......and here are some quotes from the Koran itself. You can't get more authoritative than that..<br /><br />http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23367137-details/Is+this+what+they+mean+by+%22Muslim+tolerance'/article.doAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14639740.post-41758594549802177652006-09-24T09:51:00.000-04:002006-09-24T09:51:00.000-04:00Title: Islam and Dhimmitude
ISBN: 0838639429
Pub...Title: Islam and Dhimmitude <br />ISBN: 0838639429 <br />Publisher: Fairleigh Dickinson Univ Press <br />Author(s): Bat Ye'or<br /><br /><br />Title: The Decline of Eastern Christianity Under Islam <br />ISBN: 0838636888 <br />Publisher: Fairleigh Dickinson Univ Press <br />Author(s): Bat Ye'Or<br /><br /><br />Title: Onward Muslim Soldiers <br />ISBN: 0895261006 <br />Publisher: Regnery Publishing <br />Author(s): Robert Spencer<br /><br /><br /><br />Title: The Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam (And the Crusades) <br />ISBN: 0895260131 <br />Publisher: Regnery Publishing <br />Author(s): Robert Spencer<br /><br /><br />Title: Why I Am Not a Muslim<br />ISBN: 0-87975-984-4<br />Publisher: Prometheus<br />Author(s): Ibn Warraq [pseud.]<br /><br /><br /><br />Title: :Jihad in the West<br />ISBN: 1-57392-247-1<br />Publisher: Prometheus<br />Author(s): Paul Fregosi<br /><br /><br />Title: Women and the Koran<br />ISBN: 1-57392-162-9<br />Publisher: Prometheus<br />Author: Anwar Hekmat<br /><br /><br />Also the BIG QUESTION. How much reliance can we place on religious revelation channelled through Muhammad if his character is as described by the noted Islamic scholar Robert Spencer in his latest book ‘The Truth About Muhammad: Founder of the World's Most Intolerant Religion’ ? <br />ISBN#: 9781596980281 Publ Regnery<br /><br />Book Description<br />In this startling new book, New York Times bestselling author Robert Spencer, provides a warts-and-all portrait of the Prophet of Islam and draws out what his life implies for reforming Islam and repulsing Islamic terrorists. Spencer relies solely on primary sources considered reliable by Muslims and evaluates modern biographies to show how Muhammad has been changed for Western audiences, lulling them into consoling but false conclusions. <br /><br />From the Inside Flap<br />Muhammad: a frank look at his influential (and violent) life and teachings <br />In The Truth about Muhammad, New York Times bestselling author and Islam expert Robert Spencer offers an honest and telling portrait of the founder of Islam-perhaps the first such portrait in half a century-unbounded by fear and political correctness, unflinching, and willing to face the hard facts about Muhammad's life that continue to affect our world today. <br />From Muhammad's first "revelation" from Allah (which filled him with terror that he was demonpossessed) to his deathbed (from which he called down curses upon Jews and Christians), it's all here-told with extensive documentation from the sources that Muslims themselves consider most reliable about Muhammad. <br />Spencer details Muhammad's development from a preacher of hellfire and damnation into a political and military leader who expanded his rule by force of arms, promising his warriors luridly physical delights in Paradise if they were killed in his cause. He explains how the Qur'an's teaching on warfare against unbelievers developed-with constant war to establish the hegemony of Islamic law as the last stage. <br />Spencer also gives the truth about Muhammad's convenient "revelations" justifying his own licentiousness; his joy in the brutal murders of his enemies; and above all, his clear marching orders to his followers to convert non-Muslims to Islam-or force them to live as inferiors under Islamic rule. <br />In The Truth about Muhammad, you'll learn <br />- The truth about Muhammad's multiple marriages (including one to a nine-year-old) - How Muhammad set legal standards that make it virtually impossible to prove rape in Islamic countries - How Muhammad's example justifies jihad and terrorism - The real "Satanic verses" incident (not the Salman Rushdie version) that remains a scandal to Muslims - How Muhammad's faulty knowledge of Judaism and Christianity has influenced Islamic theology--and colored Muslim relations with Jews and Christians to this day. <br />Recognizing the true nature of Islam, Spencer argues, is essential for judging the prospects for largescale Islamic reform, the effective prosecution of the War on Terror, the democracy project in Afghanistan and Iraq, and immigration and border control to protect the United States from terrorism. <br />All of which makes it crucial for every citizen (and policymaker) who loves freedom to read and ponder The Truth about Muhammad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14639740.post-32817639568153076312006-09-23T22:37:00.000-04:002006-09-23T22:37:00.000-04:00Sandalstraps, one is tempted to delete comments li...Sandalstraps, one is tempted to delete comments like this, but I think I have to be pushed a bit more farther before I do so.<br /><br />Pieces,<br />I actually responded to your first post, but either I or blogger made a mistake and the comment didn't appear. My basic point was that I try to dialog with anyone who is gracious enough to visit my blog, but your comment is so hateful and misinformed that it pushes my limits.<br /><br />I am not surprised that you suggested googling those terms as a way to find "the truth." That explains your information. The internet is a wonderful thing for someone who understands its limits, but it also can enable any kind of misinformation to spread like wildfire.<br /><br />Your ideas about Islam are as convincing to me as medieval accusations about Jews and blood libel or accusations in late antiquity that early Christians engaged in canibalism and orgies.<br /><br />I challenged you in my lost comment, as I do now, to give me a reference to a book by a respected scholar of Islamic studies that has been recieved well in its field, and that backs up your claims. If you do so, I will eat my words. Otherwise, please inform yourself in a responsible manner.Liamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17265036866243982434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14639740.post-10554021001386443892006-09-23T19:22:00.000-04:002006-09-23T19:22:00.000-04:00Dear sandalstraps, to paraphrase Trotsky 'You may ...Dear sandalstraps, to paraphrase Trotsky 'You may not be interested in Jihad, but Jihad is interested in YOU!<br /><br />Evidence for the assertions can be found by googling. Most points have (implicit) keywords (or combinations ) which can be googled to produce independent supporting information eg 'Mohammed pedophile', 'Meccan Medinan violence', 'Islam meteorite-worship', 'koran abrogation'(for illogicality see 'Islam comic book'), 'Islam thighing' ,'kafir/kaffir/kuffar najis', 'Islam slavery', "Allah leads astray whom he pleases"<br />, 'Islam Golden Rule', 'Mohammed Ayesha or Aisha', 'Islam honor shame', 'shaheed intercede 70 relatives', 'taqiyya', 'SJS sudden jihad syndrome', 'hudna', 'Dar-al-Islam and Dar-al-Harb', 'jizya', 'Jahiliya'.<br /><br />Don't believe any of the 20 points until you have investigated them for yourself. Go ahead - search on these words or similar (or a representative sample) for information rejecting / supporting the above assertions. <br /><br />Explore the truth. It may not set you free, but it will certainly give you a better appreciation of your impending dhimmitude.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14639740.post-19348901728575160502006-09-23T09:10:00.000-04:002006-09-23T09:10:00.000-04:00Well I'm glad to see that our long-winded essentia...Well I'm glad to see that our long-winded essentially annonymous friend has such a keen understanding of a complex religion and its context in history! I especially love his/her charity and understanding, as well as his/her ability to construct fair, honest, and thorough arguments.<br /><br />All sarcasm aside, I wonder how someone who offers no evidence for such bold and inflammatory assertions plans on <em>persuading</em> anyone. Liam, I hate to suggest this, but I think that you should delete that last comment, and this one.Sandalstrapshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16303641009581382217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14639740.post-84537927106069942622006-09-21T19:06:00.000-04:002006-09-21T19:06:00.000-04:00"Really, I would like things to calm down so I can..."Really, I would like things to calm down so I can concentrate on why the Mets keep losing now that they're..." <br /><br />Liam, things won't calm down until you and yours are either dead or Muslim. Pope Benedict has been trying to give us a warning.<br /><br />Here are twenty facts about Islam every infidel should know. (And which the Pope probably already knows, see http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1553225/posts )<br /><br />Islam ...<br /><br />1) Is a mind-control and information-control cult founded by a murderer, torturer, brigand, rapist and pedophile called Mohammed. The mind-control and information-control aspects require that all criticism be silenced.<br /><br />2) Is Mohammed's personality cult. Has no foundations other than Mo's murderous rantings (Koran and Hadith). The Koran consists of two conflicting parts - Meccan and Medinan (peaceful and violent respectively). The Medinan stuff supersedes ('abrogates') the Meccan stuff. Muslims act Medinan, but quote Meccan verses to the gullible infidels.<br /><br />3) Claims to worship the same God as Christians and Jews, but in fact worships Allah - a demonic channelling through Mohammed's psychopathic ego. The Death Cult mixes garbled versions of Christian and Jewish scriptures with pagan practices such as moon and meteorite-worship, and cut-throat blood sacrifice of animals and non-believers.<br /><br />4) Has no rational, philosophical nor theological basis, and the whole belief-system is contradicted by science, philosophy, commonsense, human decency and internal inconsistency.<br /><br />5) Cannot withstand rational criticism. Can only spread and maintain itself by ignorance, illiteracy, war, terrorism, and intimidation. Islam has bloody borders and cannot co-exist peacefully with other belief systems. Winston Churchill said that Islam in a man is as dangerous as hydrophobia (rabies) in a dog.<br /><br />6) Has a superstitious dread of images of pigs, crosses, Buddhas, Saint George (and his flag) and of course Motoons.<br /><br />7) Regards Islamic women as semihuman. Wife-beating, incest and child abuse (including mufa’khathat or 'thighing' - the ritual abuse of infants) are encouraged.<br /><br />8) Regards all unbelievers (Kaffirs, Kuffar, Kufrs, Kafirs) as ritually unclean subhumans to be killed, subjugated, enslaved, exploited or parasitised. Kafirs are described by the Arabic word 'najis' - literally 'filth'. That's why Muslim hatred of Kafirs is intrinsic to their 'religion'. A Kafir doesn't need to DO anything to offend a Muslim, his very existence is enough of an affront.<br /><br />9) The ethical system applies only to Muslims. Allah encourages rape, pillage, extortion and enslavement of non-Muslims. Morality does not extend beyond the global gang (ummah). Muslim ethics are the ethics of the Mafia.<br /><br />10) Allah's followers are motivated by hatred, greed and lust. There is no love, mercy or compassion. Allah is vindictive, unpredictable, capricious and devious - "Allah leads astray whom he pleases".<br /><br />11) The only religion NOT founded on The Golden Rule. Morality is based on Mohammed's example. If Mohammed did it then it's OK for all Muslims. Hence the encouragement of rape, pillage, subjugation and murder of non-believers and the institutionalised pedophilia prevalent throughout Muslim society (justified by Mohammed's activities with Ayesha, his child sex-slave - see and listen to http://islamcomicbook.com/lyrics1.htm).<br /><br />12) All human relations are defined by Dominance/Subjugation. Muslims have schizoid inferiority/superiority complexes. (A well-balanced Muslim is one with a chip on each shoulder). They respect strength but despise compromise as weakness. Appeasement invites more aggression. The only political system which has been strong enough to subjugate Islam is Stalinism.<br /><br />13) Polygamy ensures alpha-males get extra women, leading to a shortage of women for the betas. Beta-males must either jerk off (a sin leading to hell), or form dog-packs and rape or capture kafir women as booty in a razzia, or else self-destruct in the presence of infidels then they can screw 72 mythical virgins in Allah's bordello in the sky (see and listen to http://islamcomicbook.com/lyrics3.htm). Beta-males are often encouraged by their relatives to become suicide bombers because of the belief that such murderous 'martyrs' will be able to intercede with Allah to take 70 of their relatives to paradise with them.<br /><br />14) Lying and deception of infidels (taqiyya) is encouraged. This may take many forms, including outright lies, feigned moderation, and condemnation of terrorist attacks to the Kaffir while rejoicing with fellow Muslims. All Muslims need to regard themselves as victims of some group of Kafirs so they can harbor grudges against them and against Kafirs in general. Individuals may appear law-abiding and reasonable, but they are part of a totalitarian movement, and must be considered potential killers who can flip in an instant (SJS -'Sudden Jihad Syndrome').<br /><br />15) Muslims are forbidden to befriend Kaffirs except for purposes of deceit or where conversion may be possible.<br /><br />16) The Koran is Allah's final word and cannot be changed or challenged. To do so is punishable by death. Consequently, the Death Cult can never change or be reformed. The instructions to murder and rape infidels are just as valid now as the day they were written. Since Islam cannot be modernised, the Muslims are attempting to Islamise modernity. This requires spreading Islam in the West and simultaneously preventing any criticism of the cult by intimidation and PC legislation to curtail freedom of expression.<br /><br />17) Treaties and agreements with Kaffirs are made to be broken (Hudna). The word of a Muslim to a Kafir counts for nothing in the eyes of Allah. Allah is The Father Of Lies.<br /><br />18) The world is divided between Dar-al-Islam and Dar-al-Harb (the domain of war, the Kufr lands). Muslims living in Dar-al-Harb must work to disrupt their host nations until these can be brought into Dar-al-Islam. <br /><br />19) Muslims have no obligation to their host nations and in fact are encouraged to parasitise them. Welfare fraud, identity theft, forgery etc are endemic in Western Muslim populations, and serious crime against Kaffirs is regarded as normal and justified. Extortion rackets against Kafirs are mandated by the Koran ('jizya' is the Arabic term for 'protection money' payable by Jews and Christians to Muslims).<br /><br />20) The attack on the host nation isn't just against its religion and economy, but is aimed at its very cultural identity. Islam is a complete system, including a culture, which Muslims regard as superior (despite all evidence to the contrary) to other cultures. Muslims are therefore required to destroy the symbols of 'Jahiliya' (sometimes sp. Jahiliyya) - non-Muslim culture. In the East this has included destruction of Hindu temples and Christian churches and replacement with mosques, and destruction of Buddhist artwork and universities and replacement with heaps of rubble. This process of cultural replacement is now beginning in the West..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14639740.post-67468942436007458712006-09-17T22:03:00.000-04:002006-09-17T22:03:00.000-04:00I think I've been mistaking the other Liam for you...I think I've been mistaking the other Liam for you a lot ... this may explain your demented take on church music :-)crystalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05681674503952991492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14639740.post-24871647896729139562006-09-17T21:44:00.000-04:002006-09-17T21:44:00.000-04:00Thanks, cowboy.Thanks, cowboy.Liamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17265036866243982434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14639740.post-23722907776231068312006-09-17T20:47:00.000-04:002006-09-17T20:47:00.000-04:00Karen Armstrong comments on the Pope's speech.<a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/story/0,,1874786,00.html">Karen Armstrong comments</a> on the Pope's speech.cowboyangelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13452987299073540171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14639740.post-42667536020775613012006-09-17T16:45:00.000-04:002006-09-17T16:45:00.000-04:00Jeff, thanks, you are very kind. The whole thing i...Jeff, thanks, you are very kind. The whole thing is very sad -- I don't know why so many people think that being a Catholic means you are an automatic enemy of Muslims. <br /><br />Hey, I do like the Red Sox, although they're not what they were a couple of years ago. I live in New York, but I hate the Yankees.<br /><br />And hooray for Boston College for beating BYU yesterday!Liamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17265036866243982434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14639740.post-45528861845598428262006-09-17T16:42:00.000-04:002006-09-17T16:42:00.000-04:00Cowboy -- you're right, it's not completely an apo...Cowboy -- you're right, it's not completely an apology, and I think that's typical of Benedict. I get the feeling that his main thing is "if everyone would listen to us and be good Christians, the world would be fine," and so he seems very reluctant to acknowledge errors on his part or on the part of the Church. I do hope things will calm down.<br /><br />The Mets lost again!<br /><br />Crystal,<br /><br />I think there is a lot than can be criticized in the Islamic world. The problems are 1)too many people generalize specific problems to Islam as a whole, and 2)Muslims often justifiably feel that criticism coming from the west is both arrogant and hypocritical.<br /><br />I never wear shorts to Church, though I don't worry too much about what other people wear. When I do comment on Catholic Sensibility, it's usually as "Alter Liam" to differentiate myself from the guy that usually comments there.Liamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17265036866243982434noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14639740.post-57370901910944048372006-09-17T16:30:00.000-04:002006-09-17T16:30:00.000-04:00Liam,
Awesome post, my friend. Just outstanding....Liam,<br /><br />Awesome post, my friend. Just outstanding. I think it's the best summary I've seen written up on it yet. This is why guys like you (history teachers and professors) need to get more credit for what you do. Knowing history is critically important, and too many peope who live in this country give it short thrift as a subject, not finding any hting "practical" in it. Nice work. I think you're finding just the right balance on this. We all need to learn more about Islam too. It's more complicated and varied than we think. <br /><br />I've been a little bit depressed over the last few days over what I've seen in Catholic blogdom on this topic. It almost seems as if some of us want us to emulate the behavior of the very ones they criticize. Thanks for the Nostra Aetate quote, although there are many who openly scoff at it and regret it. <br /><br />Funny thing about the other Liam. I first encountered Crystal on Joe Cecil's "In Today's News". There was a Liam there too, so I naturally assumed that he was you. I can tell the difference now though, although he's not a bad guy either. :-)<br /><br />Pedro Martinez? Ouch. Between you and Pedro and Cowboyangel and Curtis Martin, you're both rubbing salt in my Bostonian wounds. Now I'm going back to watching the Pats whup up on them Jets. :-)Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10754406706300818849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14639740.post-32180398915874220012006-09-17T14:44:00.000-04:002006-09-17T14:44:00.000-04:00Great post, Liam.
I catch myself sliding over i...Great post, Liam. <br /><br />I catch myself sliding over into believing the worst about Islam, without any reason other than fear and the terrible desire to be right and have someone else be wrong. <br /><br />We would want others to look at the Bible rather than at the president and his policies to see what christianity is about ... we should do the same with Islam. <br /><br />You aren't the Liam who comments at Catholic Sensibility? So you aren't the Liam who wears shorts to church in the summer ... to think I looked up that <a href = "http://povcrystal.blogspot.com/2006_05_25_povcrystal_archive.html"> poem</a> just for you :-)crystalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05681674503952991492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14639740.post-27873363880608039532006-09-17T14:29:00.000-04:002006-09-17T14:29:00.000-04:00Good, thorough post, amigo mio.
A correction, how...Good, thorough post, amigo mio.<br /><br />A correction, however. The Pope hasn't issued an official apology. He said he was "deeply sorry for the reactions in some countries to a few passages of my address at the University of Regensburg, which were considered offensive to the sensibility of Muslims." That <i>sort of</i> sounds like an apology, but it's evidently not good enough in diplomatic circles. Many Arab groups are seeking "clarification" of his remarks or wanting a full apology.<br /><br />Cole said this morning, "The pope will say something on the issue later today. Will blog it." I just checked and haven't seen anything yet.<br /><br />It's a strange situation. If, as Jeff says, Benedict has always been very careful with his words, then one wonders what he was thinking on this occasion. Various stories say he has been "shocked" at the reaction. But it's such a tense time, I don't know why he would be so shocked. <br /><br />Too bad he gets all the attention for this and received almost none for speaking out against the Israeli invasion of Lebanon.<br /><br />On a serious note: Dude, it's the New York Mets! What do you expect?!?!?cowboyangelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13452987299073540171noreply@blogger.com